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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars (Jordan) on Mar 29, 2020 15:19:15 GMT -5
Is there a deadline for this vote? Does majority win automatically? I don’t think a minor majority makes this a given change. This was not presented as this vote is for making the change. It is just being proposed at this point to see what people think of the idea. New ideas were presented and this needs to be explored further before we make permanent changes. If we get a majority then the exact details need to be made, then presented to the league for a vote. Before that happens other ideas need to be discussed as well. There are some other options that would achieve a similar goal without having to be this specific thing. I am working on putting those together to get opinions on before I put out another vote. I think there are enough good points of disapproval for this that it warrants further discussion, even if this does end up with a majority.
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars (Jordan) on Apr 3, 2020 16:42:52 GMT -5
I thought this was very interesting from ESPN today.
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Post by Seattle Seahawks (Cecil) on Apr 3, 2020 17:01:27 GMT -5
Yep. Doesn’t mean an a long established DYNASTY league should suddenly change its rules because espn is changing it rules, which caters to single year leagues.
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars (Jordan) on Apr 3, 2020 17:12:20 GMT -5
Yep. Doesn’t mean an a long established DYNASTY league should suddenly change its rules because espn is changing it rules, which caters to single year leagues. Agreed. I think we should change rules when they make sense. Doing something because that’s the way it’s always been done is a poor excuse that stifles growth.
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Post by Philadelphia Eagles (Andrew) on Apr 3, 2020 17:20:53 GMT -5
I agree with Cecil. I feel like making this change for a redraft league is a no brainer and should’ve been done years ago. However our league isn’t redraft. We didn’t build our teams based on these rules.
I think it’s a good idea but you can’t just flip the switch overnight on something this significant. Maybe give GMs a year or two notice to adapt their rosters.
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Post by Seattle Seahawks (Cecil) on Apr 3, 2020 17:22:06 GMT -5
I agree with Cecil. I feel like making this change for a redraft league is a no brainer and should’ve been done years ago. However our league isn’t redraft. We didn’t build our teams based on these rules. I think it’s a good idea but you can’t just flip the switch overnight on something this significant. Maybe give GMs a year or two notice to adapt their rosters. Well said.
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Post by Seattle Seahawks (Cecil) on Apr 3, 2020 17:24:14 GMT -5
Doing something because that’s the way it’s always been done is a poor excuse that stifles growth.
Not what I’m saying so please don’t imply that is what I am saying. Don’t put words in someone’s mouth to try and make your point. It cheapens your argument.
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars (Jordan) on Apr 3, 2020 18:37:45 GMT -5
I appreciate what PHI is saying. Not all rule changes should necessarily take effect immediately, and I’m fine with putting it in place with the caveat that it will start next season. Up until this point, it has seemed that you guys were 100% against this, and not open to rule changes because this is a dynasty league. I tried to post it at the beginning of the offseason I hopes that everyone would be aware of the change before re-signing, drafts, etc. But I suppose that was wishful thinking. So if it’s a change we make starting next year, you’d change your votes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:13:20 GMT -5
Well the league off season starts after the NFL super bowl, and you posted this less than a month prior to the start of our free agency.
Secondly no I would not change my vote based on the current proposal, as I feel the proposal is not for the greater good of the league.
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars (Jordan) on Apr 3, 2020 19:45:03 GMT -5
Well the league off season starts after the NFL super bowl, and you posted this less than a month prior to the start of our free agency. Secondly no I would not change my vote based on the current proposal, as I feel the proposal is not for the greater good of the league. I know you won’t. I was mainly speaking to PHI and SEA.
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Post by Cincinnati Bengals (Chris) on Apr 3, 2020 20:10:02 GMT -5
I agree with Cecil. I feel like making this change for a redraft league is a no brainer and should’ve been done years ago. However our league isn’t redraft. We didn’t build our teams based on these rules. I think it’s a good idea but you can’t just flip the switch overnight on something this significant. Maybe give GMs a year or two notice to adapt their rosters. I understand what you're saying here, and mostly agree. The only question is, when is a good time if we should decide to do it? I can think of plenty of bad times, but honestly, prior to the beginning of the league year is about as good as it gets, unless you're saying we need multiple years notice, as I think Jordan mentioned below. If that's the way people feel about it, okay, but then we should start determining what that would look like. I voted for it, because I wanted to investigate the benefits and drawbacks to the rules that it might bring on. As I mentioned earlier in this thread though, even if the vote had passed/passes in some other form now or in the future, we're not going to force it into existence if it's just impossible or doesn't make sense to do. That, to my mind, would stand regardless of whether we did that now or later. But I am legitimately curious about the time period we want, because I think it warrants investigation at least.
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Post by New York Giants (Malachi) on Apr 3, 2020 22:21:47 GMT -5
I agree with Cecil. I feel like making this change for a redraft league is a no brainer and should’ve been done years ago. However our league isn’t redraft. We didn’t build our teams based on these rules. I think it’s a good idea but you can’t just flip the switch overnight on something this significant. Maybe give GMs a year or two notice to adapt their rosters. I understand what you're saying here, and mostly agree. The only question is, when is a good time if we should decide to do it? I can think of plenty of bad times, but honestly, prior to the beginning of the league year is about as good as it gets, unless you're saying we need multiple years notice, as I think Jordan mentioned below. If that's the way people feel about it, okay, but then we should start determining what that would look like. I voted for it, because I wanted to investigate the benefits and drawbacks to the rules that it might bring on. As I mentioned earlier in this thread though, even if the vote had passed/passes in some other form now or in the future, we're not going to force it into existence if it's just impossible or doesn't make sense to do. That, to my mind, would stand regardless of whether we did that now or later. But I am legitimately curious about the time period we want, because I think it warrants investigation at least. If we are gonna change what positions are used, I think a year at least for guys to be able to plan to be prepared for new values for the players affected by the change is necessary, while Jordan posted the poll, if it had passed, no one would have had enough time to plan for the change. I voted against it for that reason, if the rule were proposed to go into affect next off-season I would be willing to think about it and possibly change my vote, but voting for something like that to change right before people start building their rosters doesn't seem right.
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