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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars (Jordan) on Dec 19, 2018 22:30:47 GMT -5
Surely at team called HOU was around for the old league, but I assure you a different person was running it. Ryan started last year.
And yes, it needs to be updated specifically mentioning the tome extension. Not fair for only people from the old league to know about certain things. Also, it needs to be followed throughout the entire season, not just when it’s an important matchup. I didn’t see any extensions all year. Perhaps nobody bid near the end of the clock all season, but I doubt that.
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Post by Houston Texans (Ryan) on Dec 19, 2018 22:31:15 GMT -5
This is my second year in the league, and I'm not familiar with what happened in the past. But I agree for all the reasons MINN said that it is a fair rule. This bid is over as far as I'm concerned. May as well lock the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 22:37:50 GMT -5
Idk why there is such a big deal with last second bidding. If you don't want to be out bid when your offline then you need to up your bid instead of just trying to get a player as cheap as possible.
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Post by Cincinnati Bengals (Chris) on Dec 20, 2018 1:32:43 GMT -5
I remember this specifically being stated in the rules in the past but the former commisher decided that he was going to delete the league and not everything got copied over before that happened. So unfortunately there’s a decent amount of stuff like this that we made amendments to the rules for but the documentation of the amendments has been lost. HOU was around for the old leagues so I’m sure he remembers the rule too. But since it hasn’t come up in a while neither of us was sure how it was handled anymore. This is true, our former Jacksonville owner deleted the league in a monumental rage while I was still getting stuff out. To be honest, it's been nearly three years now, so I don't know what I got and didn't get. I spoke with Matt earlier, and we determined that A. This rule goes all the way back to the MFL (The original league from 2009-2013), and B. I did not write this rule in the current rule books, based on how it was written. It is possible, as Andrew asserts, that the rule was updated previously, but did not make it through the transition in its best form. However, the assertion that HOU (The current HOU that is) has been around for the old leagues is not correct. Where you may be getting confused, Andrew, is that Erik (TEN), the previous HOU, rejoined us this year. The current HOU has only been around since early last season. I'm going back to check the application of this rule throughout the season to see if we had any examples of its usage. |
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Post by Cincinnati Bengals (Chris) on Dec 20, 2018 1:38:52 GMT -5
Idk why there is such a big deal with last second bidding. If you don't want to be out bid when your offline then you need to up your bid instead of just trying to get a player as cheap as possible. What we used to run into, as Matt said, was guys waiting until literally the last minute or second possible to bid up an existing high-bid to ensure their winning of said bid. That problem was endemic to the old league, and I do have to say, for as poorly written as the rule seems to be, it is one thing that Mike did right, as I can't really remember much of an issue with it since (Except maybe the old JAX bitching about losing a player because of a last-second bid, which we DID extend for him if I remember, and wanting a COMP pick for it when we refused to invalidate a legal, but pretty suspect bid). As far as it currently goes, it can be argued that maybe this isn't the best system, considering that we haven't had many issues with it recently, BUT, if we do change the rule so that all bids within the 24-hour bidding period are legal up until the last second, and can't then be challenged, we do leave that loophole open to be exploited again. It is probably much ado about nothing...until it's not. |
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Post by Cincinnati Bengals (Chris) on Dec 20, 2018 1:48:55 GMT -5
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Post by Cincinnati Bengals (Chris) on Dec 20, 2018 1:53:39 GMT -5
I have discovered the last usage of the 6-hour extension. It occurred on August 2nd of this year on the Eric Decker bid. CIN opened the bid on 8/1 at 2:14 PM, and MIN bid up on 8/2 at 1:50 PM, 23:36 later. He then activated the 6-hour extension, and two more bids were received before CIN dropped out at 2:03 PM on 8/2. No further bids were received over the subsequent 6 hours, so MIN won the bid. So again, proof of precedent, but of course, it doesn't mean that everyone saw it or knew about it, especially as it was the off-season. cantondynastyleague.proboards.com/thread/2696/eric-decker-fa-signed-min |
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Post by Cincinnati Bengals (Chris) on Dec 20, 2018 2:37:39 GMT -5
Okay, so I went back through the entire history of the Canton Dynasty Football League to see how we had handled this in the past. Let's just call it inconsistent. I'm tired. My eyes are tired. I'll update on this in the morning. The actual morning.
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Post by Philadelphia Eagles (Andrew) on Dec 20, 2018 7:55:45 GMT -5
Thanks for putting in all the legwork, CIN. One thing I wanted to also clear up was the extra 6 hour period. Is anyone allowed to bid during this time or is only teams that expressed interest in the first 24 hrs?
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Post by Detroit Lions (Christian) on Dec 20, 2018 10:47:52 GMT -5
Okay, so I went back through the entire history of the Canton Dynasty Football League to see how we had handled this in the past. Let's just call it inconsistent. I'm tired. My eyes are tired. I'll update on this in the morning. The actual morning. This needs to be added to the rules and not be an 'unspoken rule' that less than half of this league know about. There also needs to be further clarification on when the six hour rule comes into play. PHI bid at the 21st hour for Zenner. Not saying it was an illegitimate bid, but it was cutting it close to the 24 hour window. Speaking hypothetically, say HOU works nights. Say he checks the boards when he gets back to the house and his bid is still the leading bid. He goes to sleep and then PHI's bid happens. I know this is a specific situation I described, but we should take into account a hypothetical such as the one I proposed. Would the six hour rule have come into play after PHI's bid, or would it have ended at the 24 hour clock? Also, not trying to start a war over this specific example. Just wanting further clarification so everyone in the league can be on the same page in the future. I know it definitely changes the way I view bidding in FA, and I'm sure it'll change the strategy for others as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 14:43:53 GMT -5
PHI wins bid with $2/4y
Proboards and Fantrax Rosters Updated
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