Free Agency

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Free Agency will open Monday June 12th at 8:00 AM ET.

Please refer to the link below regarding the rules for Free Agency bidding. We are in the off-season phase of free agency bidding.
cantondynastyleague.proboards.com/post/1737/thread


Also, please try to refrain from last minute bidding.  Although this is not a rule, it is frowned upon, and is considered a common courtesy.  The 24 hour clock starts when the initial bid is placed. 

[Seattle Seahawks (Cecil)]

Please define last minute bidding. It will mean different things to different people.

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Very true. To me, I would say within the last 30 minutes. Obviously if there is a bidding war this changes the circumstances. Since this isn't a set rule, it is hard to put a set time on it and there will not be any consequences when it occurs. What really bothers me is when a GM has been on multiple times within the 24 hours and within the last hour they place a bid. I am open to other opinions on this. I just ask to please be courteous when placing bids when it is getting to the end of the 24 hours.

[Minnesota Vikings (Matt)]

The commissioners will use our best judgment when it comes to extending the bidding time each case will be handled differently. We want to be fair and give teams a chance to bid but will not extend due to lack of activity from an owner.

[Philadelphia Eagles (Andrew)]

It doesn't really matter to me how you guys end up doing this, but it seems more realistic to let people bid up to the last second.

[Deleted]

Well like I said, there is nothing in the rules that says they can not bid up to the last second. Just kind of sucks for Gms if it is out of nowhere.

[Deleted]

Can we not extend last minute bids? If you bid within the last 2 hours (?), then X amount time is added. Maybe 4 hours or something.

[Cincinnati Bengals (Chris)]

Yeah I think what Mett posted was directly from the rule book, which doesn't say anything specifically about that, just that it's discouraged. Ultimately, the goal is to win here, which does sometimes bring out scheisty tactics in us. And no matter how long or short we made the window, there would always be a last couple of hours/minutes component to it, and teams would still complain, just like no matter how many teams the NCAA Tournament extends to, there would always be complaints from teams who just missed the cut. And that's just the nature of imposing deadlines.

That said, the fairest way I can come up with it is to say, I get why being the last bidder is even somewhat strategic, but I would encourage people to let the amount being bid dictate the strategy instead of the timing of it. Yes, you wanf your player, but if someone is willing pay more than you are/feel comfortable with: good on them and best of luck. Win a player on the merit of your bid instead of the ability to sneak your bid by a guy at the last minute, as much as you can.

[Cincinnati Bengals (Chris)]

Jun 6, 2017 12:25:53 GMT -5 @treyb3 said:

Can we not extend last minute bids? If you bid within the last 2 hours (?), then X amount time is added. Maybe 4 hours or something.

It is something we have done in the past, but I won't speak for Matt or Mett on whether or not they think that is prudent. To my point that I just made though, even if we did an extension (which I believe we did for 6 hours), there is always a deadline, and what would prevent someone from just bidding at the last minute at the end of that period? And if that happened, do we extend it again? And on and on. You know? Where do we stop?

[Seattle Seahawks (Cecil)]

And why 2 hours. That is def not last minute to me. Not everyone will agree what "last minute is".

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Yeah that's why I did not want to set a specific times. I wasn't trying to spark controversy or anything over my post. I just encourage GMs to use a common courtesy or professional discretion when bidding during the bidding process. I do not see any changes to the bidding process in the near future.

However, I completely agree with you Cecil. 2 hours is far from last minute in my book.

[Philadelphia Eagles (Andrew)]

I'm not condoning this but people always have the opportunity to bid like $7/4 at any time. In my opinion, if someone sneaks in and steals your player right at the end of the bidding period then it's your fault for not ponying up enough money. It's the risk you run by giving a guy a $1/1 bid. Maybe you'll get him for nothing, and maybe he'll get stolen from you, but for the whole 24 hrs you had the opportunity to make that bid whatever number you want.

[Cincinnati Bengals (Chris)]

No, you totally were trying to spark controversy Mett! I know you! 😂😂😂

[Cincinnati Bengals (Chris)]

Jun 6, 2017 16:26:13 GMT -5 Philadelphia Eagles (Andrew) said:

I'm not condoning this but people always have the opportunity to bid like $7/4 at any time. In my opinion, if someone sneaks in and steals your player right at the end of the bidding period then it's your fault for not ponying up enough money. It's the risk you run by giving a guy a $1/1 bid. Maybe you'll get him for nothing, and maybe he'll get stolen from you, but for the whole 24 hrs you had the opportunity to make that bid whatever number you want.

Yup. Though, as PHI said, I also wouldn't condone opening at such a high bid, and would question the sanity of such GMs. The highest I can remember is I believe when Kirk, who left us after this past season, opened a bid on a slot corner at $4/4y and of course won him. By the end of the year, he had either cut him or traded him to somebody who cut him (can't remember). The point Andrew made is correct. Try to get them for as low as you can, but if you don't pony up in a competitive bidding situation, you might lose them, and that's on you.

also, with PHI in mind, I thought I'd mention the thought of ending the suspect tactic of starting a bid in the wee hours of the morning (thereby ensuring that the bid ends in the wee hours of the morning, giving night owls like myself an advantage). I get that 24 hours is enough to overcome that and still get a bid in, but it also gives someone who's up later a chance and perhaps the exclusive chance of the bidders interested in a given player, to be the last bidder. I get that we all work, and for me, at night is the only time I really get to check in and be on consistently. And sometimes, we have to do what we have to do. It's allowed in the rules as well. But consistently doing so brings up questions of whether a team is trying to gain an unfair advantage in the bidding, and the best example of that I can think of was when Andrew was the victim of such tactics last year, as HOU (Erik) would consistently open bids at wonky hours of the night, and then complain when in the early hours of the morning for most, after he had upped the bid overnight, that he would be outbid, and wanted us to disallow the bid as he thought it was intentionally done at the last minute, even though no rule forbids that (and certainly not under those circumstances). We even extended bidding by 6 hours in at least two of those situations, but he chose not to bid further. Not to shit on Erik, because he was an incredibly valuable member of this league, a great GM, and even paid for at keast the majority of this league on two occasions, but that practice is pretty predatory and we should and can self-police it better so that it's not an issue.

[Carolina Panthers (Justin)]

Having the 24 hr clock restart after each bid would eliminate last minute bids if you are that concerned about it. Might take a little longer to sign players though. I like PHI style!